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By Dr. Martin Roberts
January 30, 2011
A PAYNE IN THE GLASS - A PAYNE IN THE GLASS
Translation note: Throughout the text you will meet disjointed sentences, wrong tenses, changing person jumps in time ... This is what is said literally, as it is a statement given to police did not lead to an interpretation can not, or should be amended so that as they completely change the meaning of the statement.
"While the children were eating and watching some books, Kate gave a shower that lasted about 5 minutes. After showering, on 18h30/18h40 and wiping, he heard someone calling out the patio door o. Wrapped in a towel and went to see who it was. The door was closed but not locked because Gerry had gone through this door. He saw it David Payne, because called and had opened the door slightly . David's visit was to help her take kids to the playground. When David returned from the beach was with Gerry on the tennis courts and it was Gerry who asked him to help Kate take the kids to the playground, which had been organized but did not occur. David was in the apartment for about 30 seconds, in fact not even entered, stayed in the back door. She said he then went to the tennis courts where it was Gerry. The time was about 18h30/18h40.
" After leaving David, Kate dressed and sat down with children, Madeleine in her lap. He was wearing a top, can not remember what color, long-sleeved green, blue jeans. Tennis shoes and white socks. "
This is a true reflection of a significant interaction between David Payne and Kate McCann on the evening of Thursday, May 3, 2007. Must be true because it is part of the declaration of Kate McCann to Portuguese police on September 6 that year, a statement signed by both her and his counsel.
The following excerpt includes similar statements by David Payne, covering the same event, statements that are among their responses recorded during interviews with police Rogatory Leicestershire on 11 April 2008. Is divergent as a key material fact, and therefore false. It can not be otherwise if Kate McCann's statement is true as being a signed statement to the police, it should be. And that raises the question of how much credibility, if any, can be given to the other statements, made apparent, by David Payne.
"So I returned err on the tennis courts, err err you know I went to the apartment of Kate and Gerry and time looking you know, you know obviously we've looked at pictures from then and you know the time at we have you know that I was going to Kate's apartment about 18:30, and err I entered his apartment through the patio door. The three children were dressed you know you know with pajamas, you know looked immaculate, you know they were just like angels, seemed all so happy and well cared for and happy and told Kate, you know is a bit early so that you know, for three children you go to bed, she said ah have enjoyed both are really tired and you know err so I said, you know I can not remember exactly what, you know what evening attire, it The children wore white but was predominant color err, but you know only to strengthen they were just so happy, you know, see, you know, obviously Gerry was not there but they were all just so peaceful and you know like a family that had enjoyed a fantastic time.
Only this episode is filled with highly questionable and return comments on each of them in due course, but first we must introduce another "moment" of David Payne:
1485 "When time was in the apartment?
Answer: "I say again, we, you know, we talked about the times and everything and you looked at the pictures you know and you know, you know we set about quarter past six in the restaurant, we have a walk from there for ten or fifteen minutes, conversation with Gerry, conversation with Kate you know that are five minutes, ten minutes in addition to walk ten, fifteen minutes. "
should be remembered that Kate had to David Payne at the door of the apartment for 30 seconds, while Payne is within (" I entered his apartment through the patio door ") for 3 to 5 minutes.
1485: "I will clarify and ask for how time believed to have been there. I know I said that minutes. "
Answer:" At his apartment, it, it, I'd say three minutes, five maximum. "
1485:" Three to five minutes? "
Answer: "Yeah."
In absolute terms the difference in time seem insignificant, but when one considers that 30 seconds would be enough time for Payne is announced, raising a question, then walks away after receiving the response, hardly represents an opportunity for conversation. Three minutes, on the other hand, is more or less the duration of a single (the rule here is that if you can not keep it under three minutes do not expect a "hit" (success)); clearly time to see more and say more . And yet we have a disagreement over the door.
Kate McCann: "He saw that it was David Payne, because he called and had opened the door slightly."
1485: "Did you open the sliding door? Or was open already? O. .. "
Answer: (DP) :" Err I think it was open, I think it was open. "
But this is not about doors. Although the patio door was transparent, so is the strategy as a witness to Payne.
30 seconds before the 5A would be insufficient to convey the message that Payne will deliver. In order to decorate all the unnecessary details that abounded in response to questions from the investigating officer, he, like Matthew Oldfield, had to be inside the apartment, without having visual attention monopolized by someone standing directly before him in the door. As soon realizes enter:
"The three children ... dresses ... in their pajamas, ... all seemed so ... well cared for and happy ... I can not remember exactly ... what children were wearing ... errr white was the predominant color, but just to reinforce that were just so happy, you know you know seeing Gerry obviously was not there ... looked like a family that had enjoyed a fantastic time. "
Three (repeated for emphasis) children well cared for, were dressed in pajamas (predominantly white) who at that time Payne could not remember having seen. It seemed that the family had enjoyed a fantastic time (What does exactly someone who has enjoyed a fantastic time?). But no one gets away with a perfect life and happiness of the McCann family was not without its compromises.
"... they were just so happy ... you know seeing Gerry obviously was not there. "
This statement can be read in one of two ways. Neither interpretation is reassuring at all.
Were the kids happy "seeing as Gerry was not there," that is, by reason of his absence, or viewing (ie as) Gerry was not where they were happy yet? Either way you look at it, either father is associated with unhappiness. In this case, such implications are entirely due to the declaration of David Payne and later proceed to support this view.
"... but you know, not many minutes I was, I was there. "
1485" Yeah. "
Response (DP) : "But certainly err just long enough to see , you know, of course, the apartment, there was nothing untoward, that is, you know, err the children were all extremely happy, had no , you You know, signal no problem with err you know Kate, you know or even the relationship Kate has with any of the three children. None of the children had been close, none of the children seemed to be you know in trouble for something , err you know were still talking and playing all around. Err so you know it was very fleeting err you know I go in there, but as I say just struck me the good looks that seemed to have all . "
Why would call attention David Payne's good looks of the three children? A child looks good, especially when on vacation in a Mediterranean climate, there should be exceptional.
Those with firsthand experience in police interrogation techniques will know better than me if the repetition of a theme is a device used to reveal inconsistencies, but judging from the various references on this brief visit, it certainly seems to have worked in the case of David Payne. This is how Payne summarized the issue twice in the course of that interview / interrogation:
"I was there, Kate was, you You know, I would say it looked very relaxed and I made a comment errr, I said good, damn it's early, early, that they were preparing for bed you know, as I she said oh no, I had good , you know, one day later as good , errr so you know, Gerry is obviously tennis finishing and err well you know I hope to try and get to bed and as I say we were just, you know me I know it sounds weird but I just looked three and could not, you know, they were just so well presented and clean and pristine as it was, you You know, I was, and you know s implements seemed as healthy children , err you know, there, there is usually nothing you know ... "
1485" Yeah. "
Answer: "That's the memory that causes me and ra but just the good looks that had and err ..."
1485: "Try to remember where, where in the apartment they were. "
Answer:" Err, I mean time, while I was there you know all err, err all all children and Kate were in, err as soon as you walk through the patio door err you know were all in the immediate area in front of you you know, err that was the area that they normally would, you know, when I saw them, and no, I did not go further into the apartment, you know it was just a conversation that I like, you know I came in, you know through the sliding door, walked into the living room you know err and err open area You know I just had a brief conversation, you know things as I began by talking about it, they looked good and you know it is early to prepare to go to bed and then Gerry I said oh, you know just ended there, we're going to play some tennis, I probably err is there any problem with that? and she said oh no, no, well, you know ahead and err you know maybe a little more conversation but you know err no, not many minutes that I was, I was there. "
1485 "Yeah."
have left a few words from the lips of David Payne from the first appointment of Kate saying "they have enjoyed so much" (referring to children) but then quoted as saying "I spent an afternoon so good." Kate also happens to mention how "Gerry obviously running out to play tennis" in the context that it is she who prefer to prepare children for bed rather than join his invitation and Payne, while only minutes after David Payne reallocated this observation, slightly modified, to himself: "I told Gerry oh, you know is ending here, let's go play some tennis." Far from being finished with tennis Gerry, he and Payne apparently going to start playing.
Again, the interviewer is offered with a testimony of "trinity" and health, with a notable linguistic fragility at the beginning of the response of Payne:
"Err, I mean, the time I was there you know all err, err all the three children and Kate were in immediate area ... you know before you ... "
Assuming, for the sake of argument, that there was never doubt about who was in the apartment at the time that David Payne said she saw them, nor should be no doubt in the description given by Payne on the meeting. "They were all (in the living room)" should have been enough. But Payne finds it difficult to pinpoint. First questions about what it must mean the word "all" after having decided to use it, it does so in an appropriate phrase for everyone except himself Payne. Just can not resist the listener clarified that "everybody" meant "all children", a relationship that, if true, and there was no doubt as to the number of children represented, it should be clear from the beginning, not added as an afterthought.
But one thing above all else that points to the veracity of the interview responses Rogatory David Payne is highly questionable and not to differ significantly from version of those facts, supposedly true, Kate McCann. The final change is surely this:
1485: "Okay, so now I will try to ask is that you remember, what everyone was wearing ."
Answer (DP): "I'm afraid that's, you know me, I can not remember whatsoever. I know that's, you'd think it would be an obvious thing to remember, I do not remember . As I said the, predominantly from the viewpoint of the children, you know, white, but could not say exactly what they were wearing. Err ... "
(Previously it had identified" bedding "also known as" pajamas "do not forget, having said that it was early for children to be prepared to go to bed).
1485: "But can remember for example what Kate wore ?"
Response (DP): " I can not, ."
Well, not brand no difference whether one thinks that Kate McCann had represented the embodiment of Venus or the whore of Babylon in the time unexpected David Payne's visit to 5A she had just left the shower and, in his own statement (September 6), answered his knock at the door the yard wrapped in a towel. Not dressed up "after David had left."
If David Payne could not remember that then memories are of no value.
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